By: Cary Kieffer
I got a neat new toy to play with, a Caldwell Ballistic Precision Premium Chronograph. Yesterday was the first time I ever played with it. I had a blast and learned a lot. Some of it I did not want to know, some was great but my precious Underwood 460 Rowland ammo came up short. A big thanks to Deputy Chris H, of the Lenawee County Sheriff’s Dept for hooking me up with this gizmo. Let’s see what happened.
Setting Up: I read the directions and did what they said. I sat the chrono 13 feet in front of the muzzle. The directions said 12-15 feet. We could not get the IR to read so we went back to the plastic shades. I then tested the accuracy against a known load/pistol. My Springy 4 inch Service Model XD with Hornady Critical Defense 115’s were nearly a perfect match and Remington Golden Saber 124’s were very close. I believe the Caldwell to be accurate.
This article will show you what the 460 Rowland did. It is a Springfield XD Tactical 45 with a Genuine Rowland Conversion Kit. The barrel is 5.5 inches long and comped. I use a 24 lb Wolf 1911 spring and a Springer Precision guide rod. That’s all there is to know about the weapon. It’s a sledgehammer…but not the hammer that Underwood claims on the boxes of ammo. I was disappointed and wrote them already about this. I’ll post whatever they have to say when I get a response. Incidentally the 9mm Underwood came up short too until you got into a 10 inch barrel. That’s another story though.
Underwood 185 Grain HP: A Nosler Jacketed Hollow Point they claim is 1575 fps with 1019 lbs Muzzle Energy, below is what it really did.
5 Shots: 1498 fps, 1501, 1504, 1511 and 1518 fps. Average speed of 1506 fps with 931 lbs of muzzle energy.
So, you can see they came up short…like I said this is my first day chrono’ing…Is that normal? Is it “close enough”?? I was a tad disappointed, it’s not like it is weak but not one got near the published speed. The purpose of this is too generate some feedback. If you know a lot about this please chime in and tell us what you think. I sure don’t claim expert on this topic.
Underwood 230 Grain HP: A Nosler Jacketed Hollow Point they claim is 1400 fps with 1001 lbs of muzzle energy, below is what it really did.
5 Shots: 1305 fps, 1308, 1318, 1324 and 1331 fps. Average speed of 1317 fps with 885 lbs muzzle energy.
Too me 83 fps/116 lbs ME seems like quite a bit to be coming up short…that’s why I would like feedback from the people who know.
Underwood 255 Grain HCFP: Underwood claims 1300 fps with 957 lbs of muzzle energy, below is what it really did.
5 Shots: 1251 fps, 1255, 1265, 1278 and 1289 fps. Average speed of 1268 fps with 910 lbs muzzle energy.
Now this one is only a touch slower than what they said. I was pretty happy with this one.
Well….I guess that’s it. All 3 came up slow and 2 of them I felt were overrated quite a bit. Let’s hear from people on this and tell me what you think. Should I be disappointed or was this pretty normal with factory claims and what it does in real people’s guns?? As always thanks for reading and train often.
8-19-16 Update: Heard back from the good folks at Underwood and they were very helpful. I’m going to reshoot the Rowland on a cloudless day. I had storm clouds rolling in and out with very high humidity. So as soon as I can we shoot again. Thanks Underwood, our correspondence is below.
Hi, I’m a staff writer at TGR. I’ve talked up your ammo in several of my articles now. Today I spent the afternoon chrono’ing various loads including 2 or your +P+ loads and 3 460 Rowland loads. All came up short of advertised speeds using a 4.5 inch xdm and 5.5 inch 460 R. What guns are you guys using to come up with these speeds? I was up to a 10.5 inch SBR AR 9mm before I got into the claimed speeds of the 115 grain +p+ load and no 460 R made it at all…..my point is with “normal” or at least guns you’ll usually see ppl shooting the ammo was falling short. If it were me I would not print 1400 fps on a box of 9mm if I had to use a glock longslide or AR to get it there. I would print speeds from average guns like the XDM or glock 17. Just wanted your take on the subject. I still think it’s good, accurate and economical ammo. Just was disappointed in the results. Thanks. Cary Kieffer
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Excellent write-up and I appreciate your results.
I built my .460R using a Glock 20 frame fitted with Lone Wolf .45ACP “long slide” and LWD 6.61″ threaded barrel. Attached to the barrel is LWD’s outstanding muzzle brake, backed up with a solid stainless steel guide rod and 24# recoil spring.
My numbers chronographing the same brand and loads are as follows:
185gr JHP / 1,730 fps / 1,230 fpe
230gr JHP / 1,522 fps / 1,183 fpe
255gr HC / 1,384 fps / 1,084 fpe
At the time I was using a Chrony, Master Chrony set 10 feet ahead of the muzzle.
As Underwood’s response stated, I too have since converted to using a Lab Radar, Doppler radar to record bullet speeds in order to eliminate all the possible variables that exist using an optical chronograph. I hope to soon get around to re-testing the same Underwood loads using my Doppler unit.
Wow, you really got some extra speed out of that 6.61 barrel! I have a glock 41 now…might have to try one of those things out. Thanks for stopping by TGR. Cary
Ps. I bought a Caldwell G2 chrony since this article as well. It’s the inverted style. I find the results to be more consistent than the one I used during this article a few years back. I just ordered a replacement light screen for the thing…lol, it is NOT 30 cal bullet resistant. 🙂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhGM0hhsGEg
This U Tube video shows higher velocities than advertised out of a Glock 21. Not all firearms shoot equally. The Glock 21 has a shorter barrel…