Hello again, well I had this whole thing written and then had to start over. One I accidentally erased it before posting and two (and more importantly) some significant changes needed to be made to my review of this ammo after a few weeks went by and I observed a lot more of it going downrange. I want to discuss Federal Champion 9mm. It’s cheap, it’s plentiful and it’s accurate and seemed like a really good buy until.
So first I will tell you about my personal experience with the stuff with me shooting it, then what happened 2 weeks later when handing the same weapons over to other people. I read quite a number posts on various websites saying the stuff was under powered, weak, jamo-matic, ejected cartridges barely make it over the slide and often times don’t. In a nutshell it needed a stronger powder charge. Coming from Federal I wanted to see this stuff fail for myself. So I bought a case of 1000 rds off gunbroker for $206 delivered.
So off to shoot I went. I took half the case and a pile of 9mm’s. From micro pistols like the DB-9 all the way through an Uzi and an HK MP-5. My personal firing went off without a hitch. I was very happy with the groups and had zero malfunctions of any kind. I had 3-6 feet of ejection and I was convinced that the stuff I read was untrue. Maybe they had a bad batch?? I didn’t know what was up but there were no signs of the stuff being weak or prone to failures to eject due to not enough “umpff” to kick the case out. I gave a box or 3 each to a DB-9, XD subcompact, XDM, Sig290, XD service model, IMI UZI and 3 mags of 30 through the MP-5. Like I said, flawless. Now that’s where my old article pretty much ended.
So now it’s 2 weeks later and I had accidentally erased the review already. So Ang and I were out getting her ready for the Concealed pistol license course and I took several of the same 9mm’s as she is not sure yet which is her favorite. So that’s when the troubles began. She is very fit and not limp wristing the guns. It was “normal people” muzzle flip. It’s certainly not the first time she has fired these guns either. I’ve never seen her have a malfunction in the past. So right away I noticed the spent cases were in fact just rolling over the side of the slide out the ejection port, then they were jam- jam- jam, failure every 4-5 rounds. Nothing she was shooting would eject reliably. Just not enough powder in those things to work the action and slides wouldn’t lock open on an empty mag. Federal needs to add a grain or 3 of powder. I couldn’t figure out why?? I didn’t have those problems and she’s never had them before. Then it occurred to me, I don’t move much, barely at all. I weight train daily and am considered a big strong dude. I have large hands and tend to try to muscle everything, it’s just how I operate. I didn’t have the problems I think because very little of the energy needed to cycle the action was being used up in muzzle flip with me. In the hands of a smaller, weaker person I think just enough energy is being used up to make the functioning of the weapons suffer. So that’s that. I didn’t personally have a problem. I don’t know if a lot of people will or won’t have this issue??
My parting thoughts on this ammo: I bought 2 cases since then. I can shoot it for practice, it is accurate stuff. I think there could be some training value here for running some immediate action clearing drills. It’s cheap! Don’t forget cheap, we all like that! I don’t recommend it for the combat style matches as you want a good time/score and not screwing around clearing a stovepipe. I sure as heck wouldn’t load it up for any kind of real world use. For cheap practice though it doesn’t hurt to maybe have to clear a malfunction here and there (which is good training) and don’t forget Wolff Gun Springs. They have a reduced power recoil spring for a lot of different guns, usually for under $10. I’d wager that with a reduced power recoil spring these issues would disappear for just about everybody. All in all I’m happy with it for what it is and hopefully Federal will add some more powder here soon.
As always thanks for reading and happy shooting.
By: Cary Kieffer
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Thank you for your service Cary.
I bought my Taurus PT111 G2 for $219.00, and it functions like one of those Austrian guns.
First, I want to say that I’m glad that I’m a cheap bastard, because after being displaced by Indian programmers, 5 years ago, I have been out of work. So if you have the money for a gun made by Nazi collaborators, knock yourself out. What a luxury.
Second, I’m still trying to figure out how many locals you jar heads plan on shooting. You do know that in some places they lock you up, if your gun prints through your shirt. LMAO
Third, You can’t imagine the amount of bitch’n I hear from people who never clean or lube their guns. Hey, my car runs out of gas every two or three hundred miles, what a piece of shit that is, huh? Maybe if I had paid more…
Anyone else have problem with FC 9mm FMJ 115 gr.my Taurus pt111g2 the ammo is bending & 2 actually came apart jamming gun w/ factory recoil spring & w/ new lakeline.replacment, my S.A. XD-45 has no problem,I find FC superior over Other brands.or is Taurus the problem. Thanks.
Hi Lloyd, hard to say without seeing it happen but my local dealer, who’s a big place with a big staff dropped Taurus all together. They had so many come back defective it was costing them more to carry the Taurus line than they were making.
I have one of those Austrian pistols that shoots this stuff like it was made for it. I think I could tell if the cartridges are “undercharged”. I suspect the man is right about the limp-wrist hold of a less than 100%weapon as the culprit of the described “stove pipes” and other failures.
I am waiting on a Walther P38 9mm i am getting. But already at walmart i got 50rnds Federal Champion aluminum case.alot of good reviews on forums even one had old p38 used 50rnds and said will by again.
Buy again, other guy used 4 boxes in his 9mm and is happy with it.
John, I wrote that piece several years back when I first started seeing it for sale. Good to hear it’s working out. I may get a case or 3…frankly I’m tired of churning out blasting ammo from the reloading bench. For the price of a case, 9mm practice ammo isn’t worth all the effort for me to reload it. It certainly gets fired faster than I’m making it on a Rock Chucker. Then I can save my reloading time for Match grade rifle loads and misc. hot stuff I mess with. Thanks for stopping by TGR. Cary